tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35403587.post6510110465792208708..comments2023-07-25T08:22:35.176-06:00Comments on Kennedy's Corridor: Weekend ReviewKennedyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14149130617213590448noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35403587.post-28081939492547008592007-05-08T08:11:00.000-06:002007-05-08T08:11:00.000-06:00You mentioned Dominican in your "big disappointmen...You mentioned Dominican in your "big disappointments," but he really didn't run too badly and it looked like he was wearing a Great Hunter blanket the entire race. I don't think he was going to get in the money, but it is also worth noting that he was squeezed badly by Great Hunter and Any Given Saturday just as he was building up to make his final run. I heard he didn't appreciate the mud in his face either. I don't want to pretend he was ready to compete with Street Sense or Curlin, but he's a good horse and will probably have my support next time out. (It would probably be nice if the next time out was on turf)Hawkenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13966683366595357224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35403587.post-90126560525671705552007-05-07T17:47:00.000-06:002007-05-07T17:47:00.000-06:00i don't think my further comments went through// i...i don't think my further comments went through// i think most of pletcher's colts were compromised by their post position, especially AGS// circular quay may just have been short in terms of foundation//in my view, because i have seen a colt like unbridled win from post 14, i don't think no biz and scat daddy had an excuse other than they are not fast enough yet// i think as long as trainers are going to train away from traditional training methods in the run up to the derby, pro-filers are going to have a hard time// eventually the pro-filers will catch up when the trainers with the best talent are doing the same thing// trainers might be encouraged to digress from traditional methods after seeing the successes of barbaro last year; street sense and curlin this year// also, i think it is a great temptation by owners and trainers to run there colts in the derby merely because they qualify by money standards// the thought being, well, if i am in, anything can happen ala giacomo/ on the other hand trainers may come to think some of the colts might have done much better had they come to the derby in a more traditional way// it will be interesting to see if the trend towards more lightly raced colts continues// in the mean time, pro-filers are going to have to de-emphasize some things in the short run and come up with others factors that pin point the foundation level a colt has attained when comparing one to another as derby contenders // in regard to foundation, i totally agree with andrew beyer's recent writing on the subject, he knowing more about handicapping than i will ever know// however, beyer stated curlin would not be in the top ten// i on the other hand, stated in comments to Kennedys Corridor, prior to the derby, that culin had a good chance of being in the money// the problem with beyer is that he thought to much about history and didn't listen to qualified persons (other than the trainer who always think he has the best thing since sliced bread)// he also didn't take into consideration the "it" factor defined by me earlier as a colt having great acceleration, kick, guts, confidence and leadership// now if curlin remains healthy he may or may not develop into a super horse (probably not) but based on his two previous stakes victories and in the money finish in the derby, he will probably turn out pretty darned good// it was interesting to me that beyer was negatively all over byron king's thoughts on "history", yet byron king selections ended up as the exact order of finish for the derby, while andrew beyer was out in left field// chicago gerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35403587.post-49023692598183140562007-05-07T15:26:00.000-06:002007-05-07T15:26:00.000-06:00well i had a great derby/ i have my puffy shirt on...well i had a great derby/ i have my puffy shirt on and 'it ain't braggin if you can do it'; along with a little luck// my betting proposal based on the 20/20 system got me the full trifecta payoff// why it worked i have no idea and perhaps it won't work in the next 20 years/ lest anyone one think this was an after the fact betting scheme please note i developed this from KC's posting of his '20/20' derby system and suggested the betting scheme several days before the derby// i think one reason why it worked is that the '20/20 system has been entirely consistent about getting horses in the money for the derby when grouped as i suggested// i threw away 3 trifecta tickets as i had scat daddy on the top of two tickets and i put street sense on top of the other two/ i also had a two $100.00 win tickets on street sense/ pure and simple with no savers// street sense got to the inside and it was a good day for me all the way around/ my sense of it is that the '20/20' system consistently gets derby contenders in the money from its top 8// further in my opinion and really more than an opinion is that all of the pro-filers had a rough time of it this year to my r/ my sense of it is, that in general the crop of 3 year olds did not produce much like they have in the past, trainers brought there colts to the derby to the detriment of pro-filers, and a few of the contenders were compromised by post positions// more to follow shortly, chicago gerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35403587.post-53487538581397881442007-05-07T10:19:00.000-06:002007-05-07T10:19:00.000-06:00Flop of the weekend the 20/20 system which actuall...Flop of the weekend the 20/20 system which actually turned a slight negative correlation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com